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  2. Tomas

    3.5.1. Navigation

    either on the BF website (sum of your matched Lay + Back bets) or in the Geeks Toy "matched bets" window (also sum of your matched Lay + Back bets). If the race is already closed, you can go to your Profit & Loss statement on Betfair and open individual races there, you should be able to see your matched bets and do the calculation.
  3. CPTrader

    3.5.1. Navigation

    @Tomas How do I find out how much money I turned over in a race? From my P&L on BF site Thanks CP
  4. smallplayer

    Welome to my journey

    what happened to the daily updates? must have take a short journey!
  5. Sliphod

    Sliphod

  6. Tomas

    Welome to my journey

    For manual trading, I still can't see anything better than Geeks Toy.
  7. zitlor

    DAY 1 P&L AND VIDEO

    Good luck with the challenge. That's a nice clear video capture. I'm going to check out OBS studio.
  8. CPTrader

    10.2. Volatility

    Hi @Tomas, As you may have noticed I have started a blog for a trading challenge with a bank of £25 trading strictly greyhounds market please take a look at my posts and YouTube video of my trading. Your feed back would be welcome Many Thanks CP
  9. I may be slow but I am moving forwards not backwards. TRADING VIDEO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  10. CPTrader

    6.7.20. Screen Recording

    I use OBS studio simple software and free
  11. zitlor

    Rule 4 - Betfair

    My understanding is that the reduction factor is applied when a runner is removed before the off. If you have an open position when a runner is removed, and it's one of those at a short price, a reduction factor will be applied to the back or lay position you had opened. If you hedge before Betfair suspends the market then that reduction is applied to the back you opened and the lay you closed for example thereby cancelling each other out which is why I'll close an open position as soon as I see one of the favourites being removed.
  12. Rxking

    Rule 4 - Betfair

    Thanks a lot @zitlor. The reduction factor is only applied when you close the position in-play or also before the off?
  13. zitlor

    Rule 4 - Betfair

    Hi if I understand correctly you're talking about the reduction factor. I'm still learning about this myself as I've largely traded greyhounds not horses but if I have an open position on a ladder, and I see or hear on the video feed that a runner is being removed, I quickly close my position before Betfair suspends the market and applies the reduction to my open position. You need to always pay attention to what's happening on the video as well as the ladders. Hope this helps but there may be others with more experience and better advice on this issue.
  14. Rxking

    Rule 4 - Betfair

    Hi Guys Sorry if this was already asked before, but Rule 4 is still a brain-crack for me. Yesterday, I was scalping (back to lay) a horse around @60 and another horse was called non-runner just before the off (27% impact). Fortunately, I was trading with micro stakes (2€) and let it until the end, to avoid any mistake I would regret after. So, my question is, what should I do if this happens again? I was afraid of scratching it and having a huge loss (if the horse wins the race). Sorry if my English wasn't clear enough, but I'm Portuguese and it's hard to put all the thoughts in the correct words Thanks in advance Ps. I'll introduce myself later on the right topic. Cheers
  15. zitlor

    Welome to my journey

    Welcome @Winrite It may be a good idea to try out both pieces of software for the free trial period. The Betdaq versions of both are completely free if you want an extended free trial but unfortunately they don't have training mode. Betangel has more bells and whistles but many wont use them, it also has automation which Geekstoy doesn't have, but in the long term Geekstoy works out far cheaper. Just 120 for, in theory, a lifetime subscription compared to (last I checked) a 150 per year ongoing Betangel subscription.
  16. Winrite

    Welome to my journey

    New to trading but will create a daily updste of what i sm doing on this great journey, be it good or bad. Will be trying different strategies. The first decission this week is should i get betangel pro or geeks toys? I will update on that tomorrow
  17. Possibly, Peter Webb did alude to the fact that he works in same office as some other traders during an interview with Psycoff I don't believe it would be to the scale of Tony Bloom's operation StarLizard but Peter could definitely run a sizeable syndicate.
  18. Those are incredible stats but it does seem genuine to me too. Hard to believe he truly walked away from a gold mine that still had a rich seam therein. I know officially he exclusively pursued a new business but it wouldn't surprise me if some Saturday afternoons were spent digging gold with someone else's spade.
  19. I believe that P&L is real. I read that Adam came away from trading because of premium charge. He now runs a travel company according to linkedin.
  20. I said if I ever found evidence of Peter or Caan's long term P&L after 2015 I'd come back here and post it. I haven't but in reading about Psychoff today I found an amazing story that seems to have credible P&L shots to support it. It seems over a decade ago a 24 yo Adam Heathcote blogged how he went from 0 to 350k in 2 years trading pre off horses before disappearing from the scene. Some question it's veracity but on balance it seems authentic to me. Here's an archive of his blog http://web.archive.org/web/20160603050357/http://adamheathcote.blogspot.com/ Whether anyone could possibly replicate those kind of numbers in today's more efficient markets, before being hit with a 60% premium charge, I don't know but the incredible profits made by this genius make our own Tomas look like the class dunce. 🤣 🤣 🤣 As ever just kidding Tomas. As I make my 50p's in greyhounds I can only dream of replicating half of what you did.
  21. Thought I'd add a little more here after watching a recent webchat between Peter Webb and Psychoff the most well known successful football trader. Psychoff supported a couple of the points I made above by being surprisingly honest. To paraphrase him, he's found that the markets have continuously changed, every year it's become harder for him to make money and very high liquidity in certain markets has made it a lot harder for him to profit therein as those markets are more efficient as a consequence. I'm sure he still makes a good income from footy but clearly not as much as he was once able to. He now provides a paid course. 1k for basic and 2k for advanced. Wow! I know he has a lot of knowledge to impart and it does include group sessions online as he trades live but considering just how small a percentage of traders ever go on to make a long term profit there'll inevitably be a lot of unhappy customers. Here's the chat, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OuSGUx4Nv0
  22. zitlor

    BETFAIR OUTAGES

    I've been trading for nearly a year now and I've only seen a couple of major outages on Betfair. I check the following website before I start each session and again if I notice any strange behaviour in Geekstoy. https://status.developer.betfair.com/ It hasn't been a significant problem in my experience but I still don't use big stakes so my risk isn't large yet and in the very long term I'd expect to break even anyway minus commission. The only way I can think of to greatly reduce your risk is to have the free Betdaq version of Geekstoy / Betangel running to be ready to instantly hedge your risk there but you'd have to be very disciplined to ensure it was ready for the rare occasion you'd need it.
  23. vincent

    BETFAIR OUTAGES

    1.how frequently does the BETFAIR WEBSITE face outages? 2.how frequently does the BETFAIR API face outages? 3.how can we prevent being caught by these outages that may wipe someones account?
  24. I guess we piece together the bits and pieces of info we're given Small player and make our own judgements thereupon, not unlike trading. For the record I'm confident Caan is a profitable pro trader as he's been endorsed by industry insiders like the geek. I just don't believe he makes anything like the 100k+ annual profit from trading that he's implied. It seems our own Tomas has the Midas touch and has our unshakeable confidence. Perhaps this is a reflection of his true dark skills and he's really the biggest shark of them all! Just kidding Tomas. 😄
  25. Thanks for the debate, I like how on this forum we can have a decent conversation and not rubbish people or shoot people down. Thanks alot CP
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