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  2. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    Have not traded last two days. Today feeling a bit rusty. Traded whole afternoon without too much success. It was around -25 for the day and my friend decided to "make it positive". I sort of new it's not a good idea, but my fault was that I did not oppose to it as if it so should be. And as you might guess a whooping 300 just disappeared from the account. A "nice" finish of the day. Now two stupid grownups could not accept a loss for the day and paid for that. As they say it happens. I have a collection of stupid losses screenshots and that will go straight there.
  3. Matei

    Access to information

    Hi, I am based in Romania and cannot access Betfair historical data, nor all apps and the Betfair forum. Can you please advise for a solution? At least historical data is really important to me. Second, could you recommend me a football trading course for mid advanced? I see you don't have a dedicated module. Thanks! Matei
  4. Yesterday
  5. Tommy

    Tommy and his early trading

    DAY 49 Markets traded: 20 Profit: +£0,34 Bank: £31,90 Commentary: One bad trade wiped almost my whole day profit, then I traded a bit and got what I have. I was prepared for that manipulation from yesterday but it did not happend this evening, also liquidity was lower than when I traded last time in the evening. I find myself knowing/predicting next move correctly very often when I say loudly next move "from where to there" in front of my loved one when she is watching, but the thing is that I do not take current price in these cases and so these predictions are rarely turned into profit on my side.
  6. Ricardo Do

    Tommy and his early trading

    Yes, it's very hard for me to make profit on races which are liquidity more than 50k, the market are moving too fast and lot of manipulation
  7. Tomas

    Tommy and his early trading

    I also think there is quite a lot of manipulation on greyhounds recently. I have watched these markets for a few days and someone is using his deep pockets to move the price as he wants. Btw, I have found a few of my videos from greyhound & horse racing which are about 10 years old. I will upload them soon and we can compare markets today and before.
  8. Kowski

    Kowski

  9. Last week
  10. Tommy

    Tommy and his early trading

    DAY 48 Markets traded: 16 Profit: +£8,81 Bank: £31,56 Commentary: I had very bad performance today. Very disappointed. I count not take bad losing trade in last race so I decided to walk away with my whole bank on lay side on favorite dog. He lost, ended 4th so I won £9,09 on that race so I covered bad day losses along with that red screen what would be really bad if I take it but only with luck I did not end with empty balance. I go back to my videos and rewind what happend today. There was one guy who probably lost a lot of cash by his attempt to manipulate market. Why I think that? Because It was just too visible and he did not remove his stakes before race started. He was involved in multiple races on multiple dogs so complete mad guy who went there to spend his hard earnt money.
  11. Vinicius

    Vinicius

  12. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    Thanks for your input Tomas. Today was pretty weak but in the end we pulled a good result. a 50/50 trading session. We withdrew the total for the last 4 days leaving the initial 500 bank and a feeling of liberation. New rules have been added to inplay style of trading which actually are so to say mine. A few of them: strategy should be back to lay only, the distance longer than 1m4f with strong favorites etc. These will cut out lots of races and improve consistency in results. That may decrease p&l by abit but decrease the risk considerably. Still have to think over the types of races, ground, timeframes, nr of runners, nr of closed favorites, and the definition of a strong favorite. At the moment results are a bit eratic and all over the place. I tend to distance myself from inplay trading (hence the starting of this challenge) as with introduction o streaming markets became a tad bit harder inplay. From his words he learned a lot from my pre race trading but lacks experience and patience. There's much more thrill inplay. And his advice to me is to increase stakes on pre race trading and move to a higher niche. Not sure about tomorrow. Might be better to spend the afternoon doing something else.
  13. Tomas

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    yep, that's the dangerous part of greyhound markets Seems like we had a similar results. The card was very today nice but I also did some mistakes and ended up with about 30% of what could be achieved...
  14. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    Very poor performance with very good markets. Not even £100 which is a shame really. The tempo was quick mistakes not many but decisive. 40 markets traded with 25 greens and around 100k in bets pushed through. From basic mistakes: getting out too early, and on top of that adding to a position which is greedy & poor management. The position size should be considered before opening a trade. Not all markets are suitable for inplay. Choosing the ones with strong favorites should improve chances of successful strike rate. And closing stages should be avoided along with short distance races. That was my advice today.
  15. Tommy

    Tommy and his early trading

    DAY 47 Markets traded: 23 Profit: +£1,18 Bank: £22,75 Commentary: Evening trading on greyhounds for about 2 hours. I am surprised how big liquidity was there. On one race I recorded liquidity matched on just one odds-on greyhound with £78000, that is massive 😀 With my £3 stake I am totally invisible between all these big sharks 🕵️‍♀️ At one point I was hoping to get matched at odds 300 and lay at around 180, it did not happen but similiar happend to me before so why not make market 😉
  16. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    In the 30mins or so gap between the first and the second market we tried a few greyhounds markets. It seems that greyhounds don't have inplays. Kind of new that but today tested the theory :). Later on while trading horse markets a frustrating 4 reds in a row also generated a few scientific swearings. Apart from too bigger stakes at times everything went more or less ok. 25 markets traded, The biggest loss (9 in total) was around 25 mark. Managed to push just over 1k of bets through the markets which is quite a lot but was worth it. Overall a better than yesterday result. Of course a few trades from me also.
  17. Tommy

    Tommy and his early trading

    DAY 46 Markets traded: 14 Profit: +£0,24 Bank: £21,57 Commentary: It was like rollercoaster for me. One loss and then profit and all over again. At the end I got two nice profits so I got above 0 profit line and ended up with +£0,24.
  18. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    Two brains are better than one. Still 6 reds at Meydan out of 6 of course. Should have been avoided really. No liquidity at all. All the others mixed results. 31 markets in total at the end of the day. Traded a few "untradeable" myself. Last at Clonmel was very straightforward. That improved considerable the total result of the day. Let's see what tomorrow brings us.
  19. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    Hope everybody is happy now as the racing is back. It was weird to have a weekend off, not to say a Saturday. Six days passed very quickly. I enjoyed the company of my pals in the pub, lots of chit-chat and beer. A fellow or so to say a wanna be part time trader offered me a 'job'. He is on 2 weeks holiday starting from this Monday. He doesn't have much success at trading although seem to know a lot about it. He asked me to watch him trading and help him with some insights, guiding, advice, discipline etc. I said that I was not the one that he needs but he insisted and as we know each other for a long time I gave up. So up to 24th I am hired as an "adviser". That's what happens when Equine flu strikes. His style of trading is more riskier than mine as he trades more inplay. We are going to trade from my account, at my place. Of course there's some financial agreement which I am not going to disclose here but everybody seems to be happy. I will publish the results here as usual. There's a £500 limit. If he blows them than we're done. So a turn of events that I did not expect. Now I don't know what to do with my challenge.. will have a think about it after 24th. Today we had some preparation and adjustments. Traded a few markets. Very lively markets today. Tomorrow will start posting the results of a journey in a journey. Like in the movie "Inception" : dream in a dream. Very good movie btw. If you think that nothing more happened during these six days than here is another peculiar event. Another friend of mine is asking me to go with him to a Vipassana retreat for 10 days. I can not stand still for more that 10 minutes not to say 10 hours/day for 10 days. Now how crazy is that? only six days ...My response was maybe next year's February :). Up until that time we should train our backs and not only backs but patience also :).
  20. Tommy

    Tommy and his early trading

    DAY 45 Markets traded: 14 Profit: +£1,36 Bank: £21,33 Commentary: My homework did pay off so I had great time in greyhound markets today. This was 1h 8minutes long trading session and I enjoyed it. Last race was with nice spike profit £0,60 with 2x£3 stake taken on odds 3,10 then hedged at 2,84. Got good material to learn from as well again, so I am excited to do my next homework 🙌
  21. Earlier
  22. Mika

    backandlay

  23. Tommy

    Tommy and his early trading

    DAY 44 Markets traded: 7 Profit: +£0,56 Bank: £19,97 Commentary: 5 profits, 1 scratch, 1 loss. I would have better profit If I would leave after first race but it is still nice profit. It felt good today. Good experience.
  24. Tommy

    Tommy and his early trading

    DAY 43 Markets traded: 15 Profit: +£0,87 Bank: £19,41 Commentary: I am mostly papertrading, reviewing my videos and also little stuff in training mode these days because I am testing different indicators how they influence each other. It was going well today, then I got nasty two losses which was all reversed at Sheffield when they had market suspended about 2 minutes before off so I managed to get nice gap and ended with profit.
  25. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    very sad news for everybody involved with racing industry
  26. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    Today I am even more annoyed by yesterday's result. Thanks weather.
  27. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    Markets left : 699 Today: 10 ( 4 / 6 ) - £78.26 Markets too quick for me today. Did not trade these days and sort of got rusty. And the short nap before the trading session turned into a long one and made me feeling groggy. So decided to get out at a loss today. Painful feeling. I can see moves but I always late. Will start tomorrow with 500 bank again to gather my confidence back.
  28. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    Markets left : 709 Today: 12 ( 12 /0 ) / over £100 Got attracted by Gr1s at Leopardstown. As a rule Sundays are off for me. Markets very jumpy. Lot's of manipulation. Big stakes appearing and disappearing creating panic. Last minutes moves at Southwell were ballistic. If caught on the wrong side it was very difficult to get out. Tried to avoid those moments as it seemed a pattern that repeated itself. 15:35 did not green up. It was ~ +18. So a bit of a 'gamble' there. A bit of pressure rose at the end of the day because of all greens. So I get out leaving the last two markets. Simply wanted to get a clean sheet. Tomorrow definitely day off. And most likely Tuesday with its 15 min gaps a day off too.
  29. Ronald

    1000 pre-inplay horse racing markets

    Markets left : 721 Today: 28 ( 22 /6 ) / over £100 Frustrating and at the same time profitable day. Times at Lingfield have been put back 25 min and at Chelmsford by 5 minutes. That added a bit of chaos in markets. Used slighter bigger stakes as there was plenty of liquidity. Still got the feeling that I should have done better. Although did have a few faults I've noticed small improvements on my discipline. A few times I realized that moment, paused and did the right thing after that. The trickiest markets have been at Sandown. Will have a look through my screenshots later on to try and figure out what could have been done better. Chelmsford and Leopardstown - all greens.
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